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  • April 3, 2017

    Re: CQD answer published Tuesday, March 28, 2017 -Triplex Cables “With this additional definition triplex and quadraplex cables are now specifically allowed but only for overhead service conductors, not feeders.” So, in your statement above, the code does not allowed triplex to be used as a messenger cable for outside branch circuits & feeders? Thanks, Alan Chech
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  • March 31, 2017

    Re: CQD answer published Friday, March 24, 2017 - Receptacle GFCI Protection 2 As you indicate a receptacle located in a cabinet below the sink does not require GFCI protection. Unless it’s for a Garbage disposal or dishwasher and IT does require a GFCI Many thanks! William Schell
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  • March 30, 2017

    Sir, I have worked in the field for many years and mostly on doing rewires and new home construction or additions to existing homes. In normal practice here in Minnesota we are normally using romex for the wiring system and all of it now is NMB so it has better ratings than the old NM. My usual practice is to wire completely using plastic boxes for inside outlets and for flush mounted outlets for the outside. If that is not possible (in doing old work or adding an outlet for outside) then a metal box is cut into the outside wall or a surface mount wp box is used. Along with the "in use cover" required on almost all outside outlets now days, we are also required to use a GFI or receptacle rated for damp locations. I sometimes try to install the GFI receptacle inside to prevent exposure of an expensive item to the weather at all. But in all cases we are to use a receptacle suited for damp locations. The whole issue should be made plain by code experts or at least a paragraph in the code book which states once and for all if romex is ever allowed to be enclosed in pipe of any kind. There seems to be as many answers to that question as there are inspectors and code experts. Ken Lynes
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  • March 29, 2017

    Re: CQD answer published Wednesday, March 22, 2017 - Equipotential Bonding This is pertaining to the question on attaching the equipotential bond to the service panel. In a situation where you lose the service neutral and your pool equipment and everything associated with it is attached, how will it be determined that the neutral doesn't exist? Eric Samek
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  • March 28, 2017

    Article 517.31(A) Requirements for The Essential Electrical System in a Healthcare Facility as being comprised of 3 Separate Branches, Life Safety, Critical & Equipment. Then in 517.31(C)(3) Mechanical Protection of the Essential Electrical System. Next line only states the wiring of Life Safety & Critical systems but makes no mention of the Equipment branch following those guidelines. In the past we always ran receptacles, fixtures etc.. on Normal Branch power in MC-HCF cable and all the E.E.S. branch in non-flexible conduit (with exceptions as stated in the article) My Question is 517.31(C)(3) telling me that the Equipment branch circuits do not have to follow the 5 rules/exceptions in 517.31(C)(3) that Life Safety and Critical branch circuit do? Thanks, Kelly Wofford
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  • March 27, 2017

    Charlie, Could you give me some examples of permissible and non-permissible applications for Triplex or Quadruplex XLPE cables and any other information with respects to if it is or is not listed and compliance with 310.10? For example, would it be acceptable for use in a temporary wiring application used outside, underground, for direct burial for 480 V three phase feeders? Thanks for providing the service, Derrick Atkins
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  • March 24, 2017

    Does a 50a, 208v receptacle in a commercial garage require gfci protection? Jim Dorsey
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  • March 23, 2017

    Re: CQD answer published Friday, March 17, 2017 -Receptacle GFCI Protection Would the cabinet meet the criteria of a “floor, wall, ceiling, fixed barrier, or opening” and not require the GFCI protection? Thanks, Zach
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  • March 22, 2017

    I’m curious about disconnecting means. Is there a rule that states if a piece of equipment is required to have a disconnect switch rather than accepting the disconnecting means of a cord and plug connection (besides in the cases of accessibility and section 430.109 E & F of 2014 NEC)? I’m not questioning if a piece of equipment should have a disconnecting means, rather if a specific type of disconnecting means is required – and in what situations. Thank you, Cale A. McKoon,
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  • March 21, 2017

    Is it "OK" to connect the equipotential bond grid to the main ground buss in the service panel? I say NO, electrician on job site says it must, and inspector passed it!..... Kirk Knapp
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  • March 20, 2017

    Charlie, I have a few questions about a fountain pump. According to 680-51(E) the pump cord must be in an enclosure beyond the perimeter of the pond. There are requirements in 680-52(B) for sealing an in-water junction box, so I assume that is the preferred method for making electrical connection to the pump conductors. This makes the connections permanent and difficult to remove the pump in the winter and for service. Is it possible to sleeve the pump conductors through a PVC raceway and make the connections in a junction box above the ground similar to how a swimming pool wet niche fixture is connected. The problem with this method is the 10 foot maximum pump cord length in 680-51(E). The pump proposed has a 20 or 40 foot cord with an attachment plug. This violates 680-56(D) which requires the connections to be permanent if the pump is located in water. Dave R.
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  • March 17, 2017

    Re: CQD answer published Friday, March 10, 2017 -Barn Feeder Charlie, in the question about the barn supplied by a feeder you said that two ground rods are needed unless the 25 ohm rule is met. Is that enough or are other electrodes required. Thank you, Taylor
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  • March 16, 2017

    Good morning My question relates to receptacles installed for plug in transformers for automatic sinks. Is 210.8(B)(5) measured globally or linearly. Thanks Edward Sim
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  • March 15, 2017

    I have a question about outside branch feeders and circuits (art. 225). I work at a large industrial plant and we have several different structures including buildings and equipment skids. My question is concerning the number of supplies to these structures. Section 225.30 states that there can only be one feeder or branch circuit to each structure. Some of the skids have 4160 volt compressors and 480 volt cooling tower fans with 208 volt lights and 120 volt receptacles. If I have 20 of these skids it is not practical to bring 4160 volts to each one and then step it down to these other voltages for each skid. Am I violating the code if I have a one 4160 volt MCC that feeds all of the skids, one 480 volt MCC to feed all of the skids, etc.? Thanks for your help. Larry
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  • March 14, 2017

    I have a customer with 3 phase service equipment feeding. A 3 phase sub panel at 240v omitting the third c phase. Is this a violation of NEC Mike Dearing
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